Need more space than a tweet. Just to check what I think I heard was right. Was half asleep for most of it but I think today the Today prog included both sides of the Brexit argument, that is Remain and Cabinet inside the Conservative Party. Closes with discussion of National Government as suggested by Remain. But nothing from the Labour Party, either front bench or supposed to be closer to Anna Soubry.
Unless I fell asleep and missed it this seems to me to confirm an impression of how the BBC covers Brexit. They were under two lots of pressure during referendum, both Conservative. Partly because of the views of most of the PLP at the time there was very little reporting of what Jeremy Corbyn actually said. Mandelson then as now sticks to trade and economy. He is right about the disaster but my point is that just backing up Cameron did not persuade anyone.
Dutch MP seems about right on high chance of a "chaos Brexit" , not as a choice from anyone but because Rees-Mogg and others can disrupt any sort of process. Many see some cross party opposition to this. But the danger meanwhile is that most of the country, the left behind, the just about managing, the north and midlands are left out of the picture. Persuading them requires attention to the issues Corbyn raised in the referendum. On Sunday Politics a Labour MP started to talk about worker rights and environment protection and was very quickly wound up."Please don't go through the six tests again" , sorry can't remember the name, will check later.
So BBC seems to follow the newspapers, mostly a debate between Conservatives, maybe the Guardian with a guest Anna Soubry fan from various sources. Am I being unfair? time will tell.
"chaos Brexit" may well happen before an election. At some point in time the wider electorate opinion will matter. Corbyn is part of a discussion. Suggest he be allowed space, not bashed about by Remain fans. If he is on the Today prog he may be allowed time to explain something before an editor arrives to tell us that actually the Labour Party is confused.
Wednesday, 18 July 2018
Monday, 16 July 2018
Guardian on UK newspapers and Trump
I have done a post in the readG blog as it started with Guardian today, comments by Roy Greenslade and Matthew d'Ancona.
With this blog I will be going back to what happened in the referendum and the issues that were raised. I do not think the Brexit / Trump links just started a few weeks ago.
Many things are impossible to measure. My guess is that UK newspapers have an older readership but not much info available. Circulation declines quite large for Mirror group but have the readers moved online? where?
The newspapers were still strong in 2016, social media had more influence in the 2017 election. But now the newspapers and social media will work together. Leav.EU , Breitbart London, Westmonster, for example. So far I have done some retweets with comments. In future I will just put screenshots in this blog.
Slightly off topic, Guardian could report Corbyn differently if they really wanted to shake up the UK news scene. Just my opinion. More or less on topic as the limited reporting of Corbyn during the referendum could be a large part of the explanation of how other ideas gained strength.
With this blog I will be going back to what happened in the referendum and the issues that were raised. I do not think the Brexit / Trump links just started a few weeks ago.
Many things are impossible to measure. My guess is that UK newspapers have an older readership but not much info available. Circulation declines quite large for Mirror group but have the readers moved online? where?
The newspapers were still strong in 2016, social media had more influence in the 2017 election. But now the newspapers and social media will work together. Leav.EU , Breitbart London, Westmonster, for example. So far I have done some retweets with comments. In future I will just put screenshots in this blog.
Slightly off topic, Guardian could report Corbyn differently if they really wanted to shake up the UK news scene. Just my opinion. More or less on topic as the limited reporting of Corbyn during the referendum could be a large part of the explanation of how other ideas gained strength.
Wednesday, 11 July 2018
Telegraph links Trump and Brexit
Today the Telegraph links Brexit with Trump visit by a front page story on remarks by trump that he would like to meet Boris Johnson when in the UK. Gordon Rayner reports that this is a blow to Mrs May's authority and will bolster Mr Johnson's support amongst Brexiteers.
Previously there has been speculation that Nigel Farage could meet with Trump. He suggested a role for himself soon after Trump was elected. Later Gove met with Trump for an interview when working as a journalist. Tweets will be interesting this week to see where the links are now and which tags crop up.
Cannot find photo of Trump and Boris but maybe later. Also in first photo, Arron Banks
Previously there has been speculation that Nigel Farage could meet with Trump. He suggested a role for himself soon after Trump was elected. Later Gove met with Trump for an interview when working as a journalist. Tweets will be interesting this week to see where the links are now and which tags crop up.
Cannot find photo of Trump and Boris but maybe later. Also in first photo, Arron Banks
Tuesday, 10 July 2018
Back to Corbyn pro Remain in referendum
This blog is going round in circles, maybe because the story will turn out to be the same one over several years. I have stopped posting so much as things just repeat but maybe there is a claity phase soon?
Papers review last night seemed to me to include a statement that is just not so. Shaun Ley suggested Corbyn is critical of EU policy on worker rights and environment. Maybe he could suggest changes but the main thing is that Corbyn spoke during the referendum pro Remain based on these concerns. So I recorded this bit for review and comment.
Compare recent statement in Commons, Daily Mail version.
Four minutes in defends EU position on worker rights. This bit has not been widely reported, not at all in print Guardian that I can find.
See previous posts in this blog for what Corbyn said and how reported. the "blame Corbyn" phase was so strong that the actual referendum was forgotten. Not airbrushed out, I have to conclude most BBC reporters have genuinely forgotten.
Comment welcome. Other links? bloggers cannot expect interviews but some sort of retrospective may turn up.
My guess is that most of Westminster / print and TV are in one world , with another outside it until / unless there is an election or something. These gaps in memory are part of it.
Papers review last night seemed to me to include a statement that is just not so. Shaun Ley suggested Corbyn is critical of EU policy on worker rights and environment. Maybe he could suggest changes but the main thing is that Corbyn spoke during the referendum pro Remain based on these concerns. So I recorded this bit for review and comment.
Compare recent statement in Commons, Daily Mail version.
Four minutes in defends EU position on worker rights. This bit has not been widely reported, not at all in print Guardian that I can find.
See previous posts in this blog for what Corbyn said and how reported. the "blame Corbyn" phase was so strong that the actual referendum was forgotten. Not airbrushed out, I have to conclude most BBC reporters have genuinely forgotten.
Comment welcome. Other links? bloggers cannot expect interviews but some sort of retrospective may turn up.
My guess is that most of Westminster / print and TV are in one world , with another outside it until / unless there is an election or something. These gaps in memory are part of it.
Wednesday, 4 July 2018
Brexit Endgame and UK newspapers
Found this blog through Chris Grey - mainly macro by Simon Wren-Lewis.
Brexit Endgame has a reasonable take on what may happen towards the end of this week.
Note the bit at the end suggesting newspapers have been a crucial influence. There may be more on this, even questions about broadcast media and how far they have questioned the news agenda. Maybe this will be mostly online.
Brexit Endgame has a reasonable take on what may happen towards the end of this week.
Note the bit at the end suggesting newspapers have been a crucial influence. There may be more on this, even questions about broadcast media and how far they have questioned the news agenda. Maybe this will be mostly online.
Friday, 29 June 2018
Express take on May and EU, #Reach seems to be curating legacy ok
Recently there was an OFCOM check on how the Reach ( previously Trinity Mirror ) approach to the Express would diminish a plurality of views in UK newspapers. OK so far seems to be the result. More on another blog probably but not sure which one. Come back later..
Today print version of Express leads with "tough-talking" May on EU "risking lives" by not agreeing to her ideas on security.
Page five, third to last para, May added " we will be bringing the Cabinet together within the next week". Other reports have suggested this is quite important as news because the EU cannot work out what the UK priority is until there is more clarity. Readers may miss this bit as there is a headline for Brexiteers who urge "talk trade or quit negotiations" with a photo of Rees-Mogg. They expect a trade deal to be sorted soon as if the £40 billion is not linked to the transition phase.
Reach doing a solid job. No grounds for complaint.
Today print version of Express leads with "tough-talking" May on EU "risking lives" by not agreeing to her ideas on security.
Page five, third to last para, May added " we will be bringing the Cabinet together within the next week". Other reports have suggested this is quite important as news because the EU cannot work out what the UK priority is until there is more clarity. Readers may miss this bit as there is a headline for Brexiteers who urge "talk trade or quit negotiations" with a photo of Rees-Mogg. They expect a trade deal to be sorted soon as if the £40 billion is not linked to the transition phase.
Reach doing a solid job. No grounds for complaint.
Corbyn on ITV, fact check yourself on YouTube
Nothing posted for a while as things seem to be fixed or going round in circles. But maybe there is something happening fairly clearcut.
Last night in an unusual chat show following the football there was comment about David Cameron , his role in calling the referendum, and a statement by Jeremy Corbyn.
Seems reasonable to ask Jeremy Corbyn how he voted in the referendum because the reporting since has been so misleading. "Blame Jeremy Corbyn" was so well prepared it was in the press release for the official Labour campaign. See earlier posts in this blog for my take at the time on what Jeremy Corbyn actually said. As in this clip not a "catastrophist" backer of extreme views as in what has been described as "project fear". He has a balanced view but it can be persuasive. Unfortunately for the Remain case he was not much reported and Labour supporters in media circles , influenced perhaps by Lord Mandelson and others, decided to follow the Cameron approach. Lord Darling shared a platform with Osborne to repeat the concerns for UK economy and the City.
So good to see some update on Corbyn. Please view the whole clip.
Meanwhile I look at the websites for Independent and Guardian. Independent at least mentions that Corbyn "insisted he voted to remain in the EU" but the Guardian has nothing on Corbyn at all. Somehow the UK media has managed to obscure what Corbyn said in the referendum to the point where his support for Remain appears unknown or open to question.
Cameron could be asked a question about how the internal problems for the Conservatives caused some risk for the UK.
UK media could be asked some questions about how their opposition to Corbyn has blocked reporting on Brexit.
By the way, all the alarm about the UK economy and the City could turn out to be right. But those worried about this could consider working with Corbyn views if they want political support. Accurate reporting would be a start.
Last night in an unusual chat show following the football there was comment about David Cameron , his role in calling the referendum, and a statement by Jeremy Corbyn.
Seems reasonable to ask Jeremy Corbyn how he voted in the referendum because the reporting since has been so misleading. "Blame Jeremy Corbyn" was so well prepared it was in the press release for the official Labour campaign. See earlier posts in this blog for my take at the time on what Jeremy Corbyn actually said. As in this clip not a "catastrophist" backer of extreme views as in what has been described as "project fear". He has a balanced view but it can be persuasive. Unfortunately for the Remain case he was not much reported and Labour supporters in media circles , influenced perhaps by Lord Mandelson and others, decided to follow the Cameron approach. Lord Darling shared a platform with Osborne to repeat the concerns for UK economy and the City.
So good to see some update on Corbyn. Please view the whole clip.
Meanwhile I look at the websites for Independent and Guardian. Independent at least mentions that Corbyn "insisted he voted to remain in the EU" but the Guardian has nothing on Corbyn at all. Somehow the UK media has managed to obscure what Corbyn said in the referendum to the point where his support for Remain appears unknown or open to question.
Cameron could be asked a question about how the internal problems for the Conservatives caused some risk for the UK.
UK media could be asked some questions about how their opposition to Corbyn has blocked reporting on Brexit.
By the way, all the alarm about the UK economy and the City could turn out to be right. But those worried about this could consider working with Corbyn views if they want political support. Accurate reporting would be a start.
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