Tuesday, 3 October 2017

Andrew Marr may just be uninformed about Corbyn in referendum

More later this week, just that I fell asleep last night to Andrew Marr on Start the week. Needs a comment a bit longer than a tweet.

He repeated the claim that Corbyn has been against the EU since Tony Benn days. No mention of what he said in the referendum. I used to think the BBC middle ground style of interviews were just winding Corbyn up. Now i think the news management has been so consistent that they really do not remember what happened.

Channel 4 has prevented Corbyn from putting the Last Gasp on YouTube. ( See screenshot in previous posts ) I never see repeats of Sky conversation with young voters. Corbyn as balanced yet persuasive.

Would it be possible for Channel 4 to offer Marr a private showing? Even if they don't want it on Youtube?

By the way, still interested in how it was all decided, to put Brown upfront and Corbyn on Sky. No offence intended, just looking at ratings.

Hello @campbellclaret , are you trying to persuade Corbyn or just have a go at him? Why not point out what he said in the referendum? Trust in media not helped by stories that clash with public memory, even if Andrew Marr is a special case.

Sunday, 1 October 2017

BBC impartiality

Reading Peter Preston response #2

And in Britain, this conference season, there’s a melee tinged with vitriol and violence. Laura Kuenssberg gets a conference bodyguard because of trolling threats after the Canary website mistakenly reported she’d be speaking at a Tory fringe meeting this week. No: she isn’t doing that because it doesn’t fit with BBC impartiality.

Watching Sunday Politics with someone from the Sun, someone who worked for Sunday Times and also Steve Richards for balance.

In the Guardian back in April Steve Richards wrote...." when anyone declares the solutions need to be modern, liberal and on the centre ground, we may nod in assent – but should then wonder what they mean." Problem for me was that Corbyn and most Labour supporters were seen as outside this scope.

Previously Gaby Hinsliff explained that the media did "not hate Jeremy Corbyn, more complicated than that"

And so to many commentators, his victory just didn’t compute. It made no sense. We treated it like a glitch in the system, almost a mistake.

So the soft end of Fleet Street is still fairly close to the Sun / Mail etc in news agenda.

See previous post, reporting on print newspapers as part of the #sackBoris situation is not much to be seen. More complicated as the age profile of Conservative voters / Brexit fans is much the same as for newspaper readers.

Twitter could go off in apparently a different direction.

Fleet Street is Backing Boris

Reading Peter Preston response #1

".....Corbyn and Watson write off Mail and Sun.....Now, can we all move on? "

Well no, not really. this is a continuing story. The papers are players. The hard Brexit leaders in Cabinet are also journalists. May is not frightened of the party membership. The problem would be the reporting in the Sun, Mail, Telegraph. In recent days the Telegraph promotes the major article ahead of Florence. Now there is the interview in the Sun and the claim in Sunday Times that Boris expects May to go. this sort of thing would continue. Maybe Gove will step forward as the balanced Times candidate.

The print news scene is so heavily into Brexit that they are part of the situation to report on. I am not sure what the rest of the pro journalists will do. Possibly the broadcast ones will eventually take a risk and offend the Sun, Sunday times etc.

My guess, chance remark one morning on Channel 5.

Wednesday, 27 September 2017

brief comment on Media Show, trust in BBC News

Longer than a tweet but no time for full post, listening to radio in kitchen, need to get back to food.

Media Show has a worry about trust in Sun, Mail etc and includes BBC.

Concern about views on Laura Kuenssberg.

Just sticking to why there is a problem for some, recap from previous posts.

The "blame Corbyn" option seems to have been with some in the PLP and others ever since Corbyn elected

Corbyn did not seem in control of Labour campaign during referendum. When Cameron media policy decided to make space for Labour, it turned out to be Brown and Darling in the news.

Norman Smith reported Corbyn objecting to Osborne / Darling doom budget. As memory serves he said "Not exactly helpful. they are supposed to be on the same side." Excuse me, if someone from the House of Lords arranges a gov of nat unity the leader of the opp is allowed to say it was not cleared in advance.

The TV spots Corbyn managed to get included Last Leg on channel 4 but they blocked him from using the clip on his own YouTube Channel. Is it too late for this to be corrected?

"blame Corbyn" continued with closing press release from Will Straw. Connects to two heckles reported by BBC. Through twitter I gather that one was connected with Portland, the other with the Lib Dems. I believe this as there has been no contradiction. Not corrected on BBC as far as I know.

How many other heckles from 2016 were reported on BBC main TV news? My guess is zero.

During recent election I thought Laura Kuenssberg interview with Corbyn could have been reported as a stronger emphasis on importance of jobs and EU market. I thought BBC fed the newspapers with emphasis on free movement of people as an issue. When the Conservatives edited it as an attack ad I do not remember any BBC statement objecting.

In her TV doc on the Brexit referendum Laura Kuenssberg managed to show the evidence to "blame Corbyn" without spending time on Lord Darling or Brown. I realise time is tight on such a show but i hope there will be a return to this topic. What actually happened? What choices were made? Would the result have been different if Corbyn was reported for views on worker rights, environment etc. and backed by Labour organisation?

more later, back to the kitchen




Monday, 25 September 2017

extended tweet @ChukaUmunna

More of a post later

Watching BBC News after Today prog mentions Stalinism re Corbyn

Hello Chuka , if you want to change UK policy on EU might it ne a good idea to correct the record on what Corbyn actually had to say during the referendum? "Blame Corbyn" seemed to be well prepared at the time. Did he actually control the Labour message?

He managed to get on the Last Gasp but strangely Channel 4 has managed to prevent the clip as part of the official Corbyn YouTube channel. Why not organise a petition to correct this?

Scope of this blog still mainly about newspapers but also media in general.

Saturday, 19 August 2017

Scope to include Twitter, Trump, CNN

Seems that television and online are now a large part of the scene for newspapers. Social media is mostly based in the USA so gradually the language and news focus gets to shape the UK as well in many respects. Brexit and Trump have become linked and several words are becoming confusing. "Nationalist" and "Globalist" for example. in the UK I think the EU was actually able to offer protection for parts of the UK economy. We will see what global Britain looks like, quite soon in outline.

CNN has announced a special on Trump and Twitter but it was not on UK version last night. Maybe soon. The bit i taped included a suggestion that Kellyanne Conway has the job of keeping Trump " on message and off Twitter". Maybe this is a cable TV point of view, similar to Guardian and newspapers in UK. Twitter is significant, also quick. Definitely now part of the context for UK newspapers.

More later on how words are being used. Now following @KellyannePolls as well as watching CNN.

Monday, 24 July 2017

Alternative Facts and Alternative Spaces, newspapers and Twitter / YouTube

This post is just about on topic for Brexit. Mostly about student loans as this is the aspect most newspapers and radio / TV are concerned about. Corbyn on Marr showtalked about much else including access to European markets. But anyway, another time. The main relevance is how the papers still think they can make things up. sorry. I am going to be more balanced. The Mail is reporting broken promises, gullible students soforth. Here are two screenshots from tweets.





And here the source material





Do your own search to find how this NME statement and Marr interview were reported.

My guess is that the newspapers are just concentrating on their older readers. There seems to be more of a gap around 45 or 50 , people who get alternative facts from social media and /or newspapers. Not sure about this but will see what else turns up.

Back on topic for this blog, still finding claims that Corbyn did not put energy into Remain case during referendum. Main aim of this blog to record what happened during referendum and 2017 election. How did this Brexit decision happen? Media stories against Corbyn still a large part of the explanation. His case for Remain was not reported, any more than what he said about EU on Sunday.

By the way, have you come across much press comment on David Cameron role in the referendum? not that long ago but seems to have slipped off the agenda.